Latest IOC update
11 Aug 2024 02:53 #1
by Pieter de Groot Boersma
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Hi Mike,
I was wondering when approximately the latest IOC update will be available on your website? Keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Pieter de Groot Boersma
I was wondering when approximately the latest IOC update will be available on your website? Keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Pieter de Groot Boersma
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12 Aug 2024 07:53 #2
by Mike Prince
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Hi Pieter
Note that v14.2 has not been released by IOC yet and is still draft. After it is released, and the 14.2 spreadsheet published, we will update it as soon as we can get around to it, which is usually within a week.
See also bubo.org/bubo-forum/12-world/1557-upcomi...-bellied-pipits.html .
Note that v14.2 has not been released by IOC yet and is still draft. After it is released, and the 14.2 spreadsheet published, we will update it as soon as we can get around to it, which is usually within a week.
See also bubo.org/bubo-forum/12-world/1557-upcomi...-bellied-pipits.html .
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21 Aug 2024 08:56 #3
by Mike Prince
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The IOC updates have been published and we will process these on BUBO Listing very shortly. We'll do them over a few days probably, so don't worry if you see some but not all available. We'll post again when they are complete.
A reminder if anyone wants a tedious job: bubo.org/bubo-forum/12-world/1557-upcomi...-bellied-pipits.html ... :-)
A reminder if anyone wants a tedious job: bubo.org/bubo-forum/12-world/1557-upcomi...-bellied-pipits.html ... :-)
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21 Aug 2024 15:28 #4
by Pieter de Groot Boersma
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Thanks! I'm travelling for another 10 days, but I look forward to the results!
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28 Aug 2024 13:48 - 28 Aug 2024 13:49 #5
by Jeremy Hurley
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Many thanks you guys for the speedy implementation of version 14.2 of the IOC World Bird List - it being a particularly extensive one!
I wonder when the BOU will follow suit and lump the Redpoll complex on the British list?
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Jeremy Hurley
I wonder when the BOU will follow suit and lump the Redpoll complex on the British list?
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Jeremy Hurley
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02 Sep 2024 09:55 #6
by Elizabeth Watts
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BOU stopped thinking for themselves some years ago; they now automatically adopt what the IOC do, unfortunately.
I rely pretty much entirely on BUBO for my lists, not keeping an independent record, and I'm a bit miffed I now have no record of when I first saw Mealy Redpolls, btw!
I rely pretty much entirely on BUBO for my lists, not keeping an independent record, and I'm a bit miffed I now have no record of when I first saw Mealy Redpolls, btw!
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03 Sep 2024 09:29 #7
by Mike Prince
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I will look into sending an email notification when any lumps happen in future so that any details of the sighting on people's lists don't get lost. Thankfully lumps aren't too common, but watch out for those Crossbills in future...!
Regarding your Redpolls Elizabeth, I'll send you an email shortly.
Regarding your Redpolls Elizabeth, I'll send you an email shortly.
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05 Sep 2024 16:28 #8
by Steve Lister
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Having worked through a load of lists last week I now see I have 30 more to edit - all seem to involve scrubbing Lesser and/or Arctic Redpoll. I was hoping that this would have been done centrally but I guess users might lose dates of first sightings etc so it is presumably you guys being considerate - great work.
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06 Sep 2024 08:31 #9
by Mike Prince
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Hi Steve
Actually it didn't quite work as it was supposed to. We combine details of the "old" taxa into the notes of the "new" taxon so that first dates are not lost, so for the new Redpoll you should see something like, e.g. "Also Common Redpoll Acanthis flammea 1 Jan 1993 Burton Mill Pond, West Sussex; Arctic Redpoll Acanthis hornemanni 15 Jan 2005 Titchwell" and then we automatically remove the old lumped taxon so you don't have to do it yourself. This worked for IOC and BOU Britain ok, but not for BOU Scottish and English lists, which are subsets of Britain, which is a subset of the World, if you see what I mean! It gets a bit complicated!
Hopefully we'll smooth this out before they lump Scottish Crossbill...
Actually it didn't quite work as it was supposed to. We combine details of the "old" taxa into the notes of the "new" taxon so that first dates are not lost, so for the new Redpoll you should see something like, e.g. "Also Common Redpoll Acanthis flammea 1 Jan 1993 Burton Mill Pond, West Sussex; Arctic Redpoll Acanthis hornemanni 15 Jan 2005 Titchwell" and then we automatically remove the old lumped taxon so you don't have to do it yourself. This worked for IOC and BOU Britain ok, but not for BOU Scottish and English lists, which are subsets of Britain, which is a subset of the World, if you see what I mean! It gets a bit complicated!
Hopefully we'll smooth this out before they lump Scottish Crossbill...
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10 Sep 2024 13:15 #10
by Phil Walton
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Following the lumping of Redpolls I amended Lesser Redpoll to Redpoll in my Swillington Ings Bird Group 2024 List. Whilst there are still 119 birds listed, the page title and the “All Lists” shows a total of 120 species. How to I rectify this?
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10 Sep 2024 14:56 #11
by Mike Prince
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Hi Phil
Thanks for mentioning this. The totals should be correct now.
Thanks for mentioning this. The totals should be correct now.
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