A few bits to be added

11 Nov 2024 23:05 #1 by Kian Hayles-Cotton
Hi Andy, 
Would we please be able to get added:
  1. Rhodocollybia asema: on UKSI
  2. Eriophyes triradiata: on UKSI
  3. Q. x rosacea: on UKSI
  4. Lonicera ligsutrina:  www.inaturalist.org/observations/210995017
  5. Caeoma allii-ursini  www.inaturalist.org/observations/211731592
Many thanks, 
Kian

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12 Nov 2024 19:44 #2 by Andy Musgrove
Hi Kian

1) Rhodocollybia asema: on UKSI - OK added

2) Eriophyes triradiata: on UKSI - hmm, there's an old 'ill-formed' name Eriophyes triradiatus there. But it's not synonymised with any 'well-formed' names. Looking on bladmineerders, I wonder if this should now be called Stenacis triradiata? Do you think?

3) Q. x rosacea: on UKSI - we're waiting on BSBI before we update the list of 'tickable' plant hybrids, so I'll leave that for time being. I'd rather we did a big update of all the hybrids in one well swoop rather than considering them one at a time (cos there's loads!)

4) Lonicera ligustrina:  www.inaturalist.org/observations/210995017 . Looks very well-recorded already. But it's not on the BSBI maps, which seems strange. Is that cos iNat shows records from people's gardens perhaps? I'm happy with this as you've (presumably) found it out at large? Added.

5) Caeoma allii-ursini  www.inaturalist.org/observations/211731592 . Added, I've no idea on this one so happy to take your word for it!

Thanks

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15 Nov 2024 16:55 #3 by Seth Gibson
Replied by Seth Gibson on topic A few bits to be added
There's something odd going on with that Lonicera. I have Wilson's (Lonicera nitida) and Box-leaved Honeysuckle (Lonicera pileata) listed, which is what the BSBI and this site know them as.

But apparently Wilson's is also known as Lonicera ligustrina var. yunnanensis and Box-leaved known as Lonicera ligustrina var. pileata. Just to confuse things a bit more, the RHS states that Lonicera pileata var. yunnanensis (presumably Box-leaved) is a synonym of Lonicera ligustrina var. yunnanensis (ie Wilson's)!! 

Whatever they are, they also hybridise with each other. 

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16 Nov 2024 16:08 #4 by Andy Musgrove
Aargh, above my botanical paygrade! This sort of thing (x 1000) is why we're really wanting to wait for an official BSBI-based UKSI update, so we don't have to think about it ourselves. Maybe one day....

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25 Nov 2024 07:52 #5 by Kian Hayles-Cotton
Cheers Andy and Seth, 
I think at least internationally Eriophyes triradiata is listed as Stenacis triradiata so that would make the most sense. I've found Lonicera ligustrina in the woods near my house and in a few other places, it seems to be escaping cultivation well now I assume as droppings from thrushes etc. 

Thanks for adding everything! I can't wait for all the plant hybrids to go on, although I suppose that will be a massive amount of work to do!

Best wishes, 
Kian

 

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27 Nov 2024 08:21 #6 by Andy Musgrove
Thanks, Stenacis triradiata now added

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